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		<title>By: BeAwares</title>
		<link>http://montrealrealestateblog.com/stop-paying-your-landlords-mortgage/comment-page-1/#comment-3825</link>
		<dc:creator>BeAwares</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 04:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>May I throw this out there. As a new home buyer you need to realize all the costs involved with a place. Saying your landlord will make 36000 off of 3 months rent is so not true. If they have a mortgage for a 270000 townhouse, they have a lot to pay. Starts with 1200 month for the mortgage. Include the maintenance and condo fees, building insurance plus heat and water ( normal in our city) plus the mass taxes you pay ( 140 month) your looking at 1600 a month. How many people are willing to pay 1600 a month for a townhouse? or a condo? Condo fees are wards 300-600 a month where I live. All can say is, yes you build equity, but be every aware of all the &quot;hidden&quot; costs of home ownership. Also if you want to move, 10g to sell/ Don;t pretend its any less. No, you make money off of property either by sitting on it, or improving it, not just by owning a place. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>May I throw this out there. As a new home buyer you need to realize all the costs involved with a place. Saying your landlord will make 36000 off of 3 months rent is so not true. If they have a mortgage for a 270000 townhouse, they have a lot to pay. Starts with 1200 month for the mortgage. Include the maintenance and condo fees, building insurance plus heat and water ( normal in our city) plus the mass taxes you pay ( 140 month) your looking at 1600 a month. How many people are willing to pay 1600 a month for a townhouse? or a condo? Condo fees are wards 300-600 a month where I live. All can say is, yes you build equity, but be every aware of all the &quot;hidden&quot; costs of home ownership. Also if you want to move, 10g to sell/ Don;t pretend its any less. No, you make money off of property either by sitting on it, or improving it, not just by owning a place.</p>
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		<title>By: JGoh</title>
		<link>http://montrealrealestateblog.com/stop-paying-your-landlords-mortgage/comment-page-1/#comment-3360</link>
		<dc:creator>JGoh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 15:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An important thing to note (which I mentioned already in my previous post) is that interest rates will almost certainly go waaaaaay up in the next few years. Why? Because we&#039;re going to have a massive inflation problem. Any time the government starts to print money, you end up with inflation. To combat inflation you...raise interest rates. In the 70s, interest rates were in the teens. You may be able to afford payments on your house right now at 3% interest, but will you be able to afford payments at 8%? 12%? 15%? You better hope for a big raise. 
 
And this is what caused the &#039;bubble&#039; in the first place. Those bad mortgages were actually just mortgages where you didn&#039;t have interest payments for the first few years. Because of the massive increase in house prices, the argument was that you could get the mortgage, pay a really low rate for a few years, then sell at a profit before you ever hit the really crippling payback phase. The problem is that a lot of people started taking out loans against their houses so they could buy nice stuff to go IN the house, and then when the repayment period came back up, everyone started to dump their houses at the same time. BAM, instant real estate glut, falling house prices, and bank crisis, because suddenly people can&#039;t pay back their loans at all (and they shouldn&#039;t have been given loans to begin with! They were ALWAYS a bad risk.) (The bank crisis also revolves around more complicated issues, like packaging up these bad loans and reselling them as something confusing to investment companies on the premise that these people would actually start paying up.) 
 
Owning an expensive car is a different matter entirely; perhaps it&#039;s just a matter of priority. However, low interest rates don&#039;t make buying as cut and dry as you&#039;d expect. People should really consider their options if for no other reason than the volatility in the market right now.  
 
I stick to my original assertion: buy a place if you&#039;re going to LIVE in it. Don&#039;t think about selling it in 5 years, think about living in it for 20. Going 300k into debt is a huge decision and responsibility; treating it like it&#039;s the difference between coffee or tea in the morning doesn&#039;t do it justice. The original statement, &quot;Renting is wasting money,&quot; is overly simplistic, all things considered. If you bought a house 2 years ago in Alberta or Vancouver or Toronto, you know that it&#039;s possible to make more money by sitting on it or investing it while renting than taking a gamble on the market. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An important thing to note (which I mentioned already in my previous post) is that interest rates will almost certainly go waaaaaay up in the next few years. Why? Because we&#039;re going to have a massive inflation problem. Any time the government starts to print money, you end up with inflation. To combat inflation you&#8230;raise interest rates. In the 70s, interest rates were in the teens. You may be able to afford payments on your house right now at 3% interest, but will you be able to afford payments at 8%? 12%? 15%? You better hope for a big raise. </p>
<p>And this is what caused the &#039;bubble&#039; in the first place. Those bad mortgages were actually just mortgages where you didn&#039;t have interest payments for the first few years. Because of the massive increase in house prices, the argument was that you could get the mortgage, pay a really low rate for a few years, then sell at a profit before you ever hit the really crippling payback phase. The problem is that a lot of people started taking out loans against their houses so they could buy nice stuff to go IN the house, and then when the repayment period came back up, everyone started to dump their houses at the same time. BAM, instant real estate glut, falling house prices, and bank crisis, because suddenly people can&#039;t pay back their loans at all (and they shouldn&#039;t have been given loans to begin with! They were ALWAYS a bad risk.) (The bank crisis also revolves around more complicated issues, like packaging up these bad loans and reselling them as something confusing to investment companies on the premise that these people would actually start paying up.) </p>
<p>Owning an expensive car is a different matter entirely; perhaps it&#039;s just a matter of priority. However, low interest rates don&#039;t make buying as cut and dry as you&#039;d expect. People should really consider their options if for no other reason than the volatility in the market right now.  </p>
<p>I stick to my original assertion: buy a place if you&#039;re going to LIVE in it. Don&#039;t think about selling it in 5 years, think about living in it for 20. Going 300k into debt is a huge decision and responsibility; treating it like it&#039;s the difference between coffee or tea in the morning doesn&#039;t do it justice. The original statement, &quot;Renting is wasting money,&quot; is overly simplistic, all things considered. If you bought a house 2 years ago in Alberta or Vancouver or Toronto, you know that it&#039;s possible to make more money by sitting on it or investing it while renting than taking a gamble on the market.</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren</title>
		<link>http://montrealrealestateblog.com/stop-paying-your-landlords-mortgage/comment-page-1/#comment-3356</link>
		<dc:creator>Lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 14:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see the reason why with all the interest rates being so low right now, and vendors dropping their prices, a person who has the means of owing a home will continue to pay rent, and keep renting for years to come. I met someone who has a very expensive car, but lives in a little 3 1/2 paying 1200 a month renting. What a waste of money! That monthly payment can be spent on your own flat. And when you sell it in a high market, you have the returns.Sure you have to pay taxes and all, don&#039;t we all...even when renting, the taxes are included in the rent, so you&#039;re still paying their mortgage and their taxes. 
 
I agree that buying is not for everyone, but for those who can and won&#039;t (out of laziness or whatever) its a complete waste of money. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#039;t see the reason why with all the interest rates being so low right now, and vendors dropping their prices, a person who has the means of owing a home will continue to pay rent, and keep renting for years to come. I met someone who has a very expensive car, but lives in a little 3 1/2 paying 1200 a month renting. What a waste of money! That monthly payment can be spent on your own flat. And when you sell it in a high market, you have the returns.Sure you have to pay taxes and all, don&#039;t we all&#8230;even when renting, the taxes are included in the rent, so you&#039;re still paying their mortgage and their taxes. </p>
<p>I agree that buying is not for everyone, but for those who can and won&#039;t (out of laziness or whatever) its a complete waste of money.</p>
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		<title>By: JGoh</title>
		<link>http://montrealrealestateblog.com/stop-paying-your-landlords-mortgage/comment-page-1/#comment-3354</link>
		<dc:creator>JGoh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 13:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, always cut your own hair! It&#039;s a waste of money to pay someone else for a service! After the haircut grows out, what do you have to show for it? NOTHING. 
 
The problem with the statement that renting is a waste of money is that it misunderstands the nature of the rental agreement. You&#039;re not paying for goods, you&#039;re paying for a SERVICE. You CAN fix your own car, but what if you don&#039;t know how? What if you have no desire to learn how? What if you just don&#039;t have the time? 
 
A primary residence isn&#039;t an investment; it can&#039;t be unless you&#039;re planning to sell it. If you&#039;re planning to sell it, you have to contend with massive uncertainty going forward (look at the people that bought 2 years ago; think they feel good about their &#039;investment&#039;? Will they be able to recoup their losses?), and you have to put money into the property to keep it viable for sale. When I owned a house, I spent at least $10k a year on average on upkeep, repairs and renovations. That doesn&#039;t factor in property taxes or the cost of my own time to do any maintenance.  
 
Money that you save by not OWING someone at 3% (or 5%, or in 5 years, 8-12% -- make sure you take into account the massive inflation that will almost certainly follow this stimulus spending) can be invested. 
 
Buy property when you&#039;re ready to live in it or you want to MAKE money by being a landlord. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, always cut your own hair! It&#039;s a waste of money to pay someone else for a service! After the haircut grows out, what do you have to show for it? NOTHING. </p>
<p>The problem with the statement that renting is a waste of money is that it misunderstands the nature of the rental agreement. You&#039;re not paying for goods, you&#039;re paying for a SERVICE. You CAN fix your own car, but what if you don&#039;t know how? What if you have no desire to learn how? What if you just don&#039;t have the time? </p>
<p>A primary residence isn&#039;t an investment; it can&#039;t be unless you&#039;re planning to sell it. If you&#039;re planning to sell it, you have to contend with massive uncertainty going forward (look at the people that bought 2 years ago; think they feel good about their &#039;investment&#039;? Will they be able to recoup their losses?), and you have to put money into the property to keep it viable for sale. When I owned a house, I spent at least $10k a year on average on upkeep, repairs and renovations. That doesn&#039;t factor in property taxes or the cost of my own time to do any maintenance.  </p>
<p>Money that you save by not OWING someone at 3% (or 5%, or in 5 years, 8-12% &#8212; make sure you take into account the massive inflation that will almost certainly follow this stimulus spending) can be invested. </p>
<p>Buy property when you&#039;re ready to live in it or you want to MAKE money by being a landlord.</p>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 02:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE is not an optimal investment now and won&#039;t be one for foreseeable future.  If you just want to buy home for some personal reasons then go for it. But if you wanna buy to save vs. you pay for renting, then it is not gonna happen.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE is not an optimal investment now and won&#039;t be one for foreseeable future.  If you just want to buy home for some personal reasons then go for it. But if you wanna buy to save vs. you pay for renting, then it is not gonna happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://montrealrealestateblog.com/stop-paying-your-landlords-mortgage/comment-page-1/#comment-3175</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 17:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really liked this blog until I read this post. I am sorry but this article is just total BS. We all need to live somewhere and this is going to cost us money. If we rent or own it does not matter. The cost of ownership doubled during the last 8 years why rents not even kept up with inflation. From a pure financial point in most cases and cities it does not make any sense to buy anymore, renting is just so much cheaper. 
 
To many amateur investors entered the market, with no clue about RE investing and no clue to properly evaluate RE properties (e.g. CAP rates) bid up properties to unsustainable prices which  sooner or later going to deflate. I have been a RE investor for several years and exited the market because I just could not achieve any decent CAP rates anymore. So did several other RE investors I know. Only the fools are still investing. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really liked this blog until I read this post. I am sorry but this article is just total BS. We all need to live somewhere and this is going to cost us money. If we rent or own it does not matter. The cost of ownership doubled during the last 8 years why rents not even kept up with inflation. From a pure financial point in most cases and cities it does not make any sense to buy anymore, renting is just so much cheaper. </p>
<p>To many amateur investors entered the market, with no clue about RE investing and no clue to properly evaluate RE properties (e.g. CAP rates) bid up properties to unsustainable prices which  sooner or later going to deflate. I have been a RE investor for several years and exited the market because I just could not achieve any decent CAP rates anymore. So did several other RE investors I know. Only the fools are still investing.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaime</title>
		<link>http://montrealrealestateblog.com/stop-paying-your-landlords-mortgage/comment-page-1/#comment-3162</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 15:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s start over:  Buying is not a decision for everyone.  
Let&#039;s say, if you move frequently or plan to switch jobs, chances are you&#039;re better renting. Sometimes, as Adam said, you get a good deal renting close to your main interests: Office, friends, family,.. and you can buy a place with that money. Moreover, if you are finacially wise, then you know where to invest your pennies, so get interests, instead of paying them. 
On the other hand, you always need a shelter, depite buying or renting.  What if you put that money to build equity?  
As an investment, you need to consider the opportunity you lose with your downpayment, and the gap between your morgage monthly pay against the rent. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#039;s start over:  Buying is not a decision for everyone.<br />
Let&#039;s say, if you move frequently or plan to switch jobs, chances are you&#039;re better renting. Sometimes, as Adam said, you get a good deal renting close to your main interests: Office, friends, family,.. and you can buy a place with that money. Moreover, if you are finacially wise, then you know where to invest your pennies, so get interests, instead of paying them.<br />
On the other hand, you always need a shelter, depite buying or renting.  What if you put that money to build equity?<br />
As an investment, you need to consider the opportunity you lose with your downpayment, and the gap between your morgage monthly pay against the rent.</p>
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